want to order my sand tires.(mostly glamis riding).and am not positive on what to get??? :roll: was thinking 21x12x8- 9 paddle haulers? and 21"mohawks up front.want to drag but also be able to make the long dune rides.i`m about 50/50 dune and drag(hill climbing).
what sand tires?
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me 2. I am trying to decide between the 21x12x8 10 paddle haulers and the more "utilitarian" 20x10x10 9 paddle haulers. I really enjoy dragging/hillshooting but also spend a fair amount of time down on the ocean jumping logs and sand drifts and I am worried about the balloons staying on those little 8" wheels.
Isaac
Isaac
I'm not sure about the power of the YFZ, and I hope I don't need paddles. I can say for sand dragging paddles help, but regular dune riding they are unnecessary. I can make it up any hill with out paddles, and I've beaten alot of paddled quads on a non-paddled quad. I do run paddles on my ATC 250R, but that is only because I get so much wheel spin, that it won't move well with out them. If the YFZ is the same as my ATC, then I will be forced to run them, and I will get 20X10X10, 8 cup haulers for the rear, with knobbies up front.
In the end paddle tires are over rated for regular bikes.
In the end paddle tires are over rated for regular bikes.
What would you guys suggest for paddles for me? I am taking a trip to Silver Lake Sand Dunes in August. I do not want straght paddles because I will be doing more than just hill shooting. I would only use these paddles once or twice or year so which would be the best buy?
Crazie and I also live in the sand Oct - April, but we run knobbies. We can go anywhere, and do anything that the same bike running paddles can do with us running knobbies. Paddles are way over rated for normal dune riding..........sure they help when sand dragging (a little) but it's more rider skill out there. Yes we go to the ISDRA alot, and I've been going for 23 years (since I was 6 mos old). We hardly ever go to glamis, cause we aren't into the big crowds of idiots, we like to ride when we go to the dunes. :| If you ever want to go on a kick a$$ ride with a bunch of paddleless quads then come on down......
The thing I'm hoping is that I can run the YFZ with out paddles, cause I'm afraid it may be more like my 250R ATC, and have to much power for knobbies. We'll see.
The paddles I would recommend though are the 20X10X10 - 8 cup haulers. They hook up very well, and you can still spin them out to making turning easyier.
The thing I'm hoping is that I can run the YFZ with out paddles, cause I'm afraid it may be more like my 250R ATC, and have to much power for knobbies. We'll see.
The paddles I would recommend though are the 20X10X10 - 8 cup haulers. They hook up very well, and you can still spin them out to making turning easyier.
I heard though that a straight paddle is for dragging up hills. They are not as good for just normal riding and carving through the sand? What about these sand tires? They are not to expensive either.
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I still say get haulers 20-10-10 8paddle extreme paddles(kevlar reinforced paddle) on douglas .160 rims. Both times I was at silverlake I saw most people running straight paddles. The other nice thing about the haulers is if you ever want to sell them you won't have any problems getting rid of them if they are taken care of.
The fact's are wrong BOB.........
Stock Z400 with KNOBBIES, 4th gear tapped, 70 Step-up.......nothing but net.
Your right that wasn't fun at all.......
I hated it so much, I had to hit 10 more times just to be sure. :lol
Like I said all we do is run knobbies, and you'd be hard pressed to find a much faster group than ours to ride with.
my point was if you want to get the most out of your dune ride you should run paddles. And you are welcome to come on up to Coos Bay and go for a ride with us anytime Merriman and we will see if you can hang :wink: Paddles arent just some gimmick used by the tire company to get people to spend money. If that were the case all the rails and trucks and drag jeeps that you see wouldnt have paddles on them.
Isaac
P.S. BRING IT!!!! :lol
Isaac
P.S. BRING IT!!!! :lol
You have NO idea how those guys can ride (with or without paddles). I will tell you first hand from riding with Merriman and his family, that I haven't seen anyone go on a faster ride out there as a group. I'm sure there are people out there that can, but I doubt there are many.
Where are you from Edgerat? We go out to the Glamis area to ride in CA. Not sure where you ride, but your more than welcome to come along with us as well. :lol
No one said paddles are a gimmick either, they are usefull for drag racing and hill shoots. And the reason you see them on sandrails, trucks, jeeps is because they have a ton of wheelspin! When you have a lot of wheelspin, paddles are a must. On most quads, however, it's not a necessity, because a majority of the riders have stock engines that don't produce a ton of wheelspin.
BTW, how could you possibly argue with that picture? I think it proves the point.
Where are you from Edgerat? We go out to the Glamis area to ride in CA. Not sure where you ride, but your more than welcome to come along with us as well. :lol
No one said paddles are a gimmick either, they are usefull for drag racing and hill shoots. And the reason you see them on sandrails, trucks, jeeps is because they have a ton of wheelspin! When you have a lot of wheelspin, paddles are a must. On most quads, however, it's not a necessity, because a majority of the riders have stock engines that don't produce a ton of wheelspin.
BTW, how could you possibly argue with that picture? I think it proves the point.
I think I've been to some dunes in Oregon, had rail road tracks going through the side of them, we had to cross a bridge from the main town to get there, alot of ponds and puddles all over the place, and one hill that everyone raceed up that was like maybe at best 75 yards long. I can't remember the name of the town, or what the dunes were called, but they were pretty small.......we climbed every hill in a bone stock suzuki samuri (SP?).....Is that Coos Bay? I can't remember.
Another reason buggies, and jeeps and all those large HEAVY vehicles have paddles is because they are heavy, and that helps them "float across the sand" and get traction to pull their 1 ton and heavier a$$es out of the sand. On a quad that is unneccesary. But there are also alot of trucks, jeeps and others that just air down and do just fine too.
P.S. My Cousin and I also raced a Honda Rincon and a Kawasaki Prairie up one of the competition hills in Gordon's well known as Patton's valley in Reverse with stock tires, no paddles. And yes we both made it to the top, it just took alot of skill.
Another reason buggies, and jeeps and all those large HEAVY vehicles have paddles is because they are heavy, and that helps them "float across the sand" and get traction to pull their 1 ton and heavier a$$es out of the sand. On a quad that is unneccesary. But there are also alot of trucks, jeeps and others that just air down and do just fine too.
P.S. My Cousin and I also raced a Honda Rincon and a Kawasaki Prairie up one of the competition hills in Gordon's well known as Patton's valley in Reverse with stock tires, no paddles. And yes we both made it to the top, it just took alot of skill.
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20x10 - 8 8 paddle haulers will work just fine. I've tried a lot of paddles and those seem to work the best. I wouldn't go with 21", they make you work a lot harder.
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