Pc is very simple, there's not much to it. As long as the sprayer sprays powder you're good to go. Spray the part and hang it in an oven some how. One thing I recommend is to out gas the part by heating it in the oven to release any gases that may cause defects in the paint job, let cool then pc it.
Do It Yourself Powder Coating
looking to get yalls input on how well it works and which kit works the best. I was looking at the craftsman kit, anyone ever try it?
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A friend of mine was doing small parts in an old conventional oven for a bit, it was really easy. It is about as hard as spray painting and baking some chicken mixed together.
QUOTE (bmgstang @ Mar 19 2009, 09:31 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=759842
Powder coating is a very simple process in general. However, it can get very in depth when it comes to certain parts, what the parts are made of, are they coated with anything (galvanized, magnesium, previously anodized), how will the powder react to certain metals and coatings, certain areas will "arc" creating gaps in the coating where there will be bare metal in corners. I would recommend having anything that you powder coat sandblasted first! Yes, you can get away with not sandblasting and your powder will still cover fine, however it will adhere and last 10x longer when it's been sandblasted...... I could keep going on and on about tips and tricks but there's just not enough space and my fingers are already tired. If you do it yourself, you should be fine by just following those guidelines.
:icon_cool: But of course, if you would like someone else to do it for you, I would have no problem helping you out. :icon_cool:
+1 That is good advice (most parts don't need it but it's better safe than sorry).Pc is very simple, there's not much to it. As long as the sprayer sprays powder you're good to go. Spray the part and hang it in an oven some how. One thing I recommend is to out gas the part by heating it in the oven to release any gases that may cause defects in the paint job, let cool then pc it.[/b]
Powder coating is a very simple process in general. However, it can get very in depth when it comes to certain parts, what the parts are made of, are they coated with anything (galvanized, magnesium, previously anodized), how will the powder react to certain metals and coatings, certain areas will "arc" creating gaps in the coating where there will be bare metal in corners. I would recommend having anything that you powder coat sandblasted first! Yes, you can get away with not sandblasting and your powder will still cover fine, however it will adhere and last 10x longer when it's been sandblasted...... I could keep going on and on about tips and tricks but there's just not enough space and my fingers are already tired. If you do it yourself, you should be fine by just following those guidelines.
:icon_cool: But of course, if you would like someone else to do it for you, I would have no problem helping you out. :icon_cool:
thanks for the tips guys. any recommendations on some kits?
Yea, the more expensive the better. Lol, but that goes with just about anything doesn't it.
i just did my frame, swing arm and a bunch of otherstuff. turned out ok. there are imperfections (mostly due to to many sodas during prep) but for a case of beer I can handle it. the only part that really sucks is sandblasting the frame. my buddy who did it has a good sandblaster but it still takes forever to get in the small areas.
he has a homemade oven big enuf to do 2 frames at a time it works great. for the gun we use a hotcote system you can get from eastwood for like 500 bucks. but they do have a complete setup thet comes with sample paint for 150 or so that work ok for little things. if your looking to try it out I would get the starter hotcote kit. he was useing it for a while and if you take your time you will be happy with the results. plus you get the satisfaction of DIY.
he has a homemade oven big enuf to do 2 frames at a time it works great. for the gun we use a hotcote system you can get from eastwood for like 500 bucks. but they do have a complete setup thet comes with sample paint for 150 or so that work ok for little things. if your looking to try it out I would get the starter hotcote kit. he was useing it for a while and if you take your time you will be happy with the results. plus you get the satisfaction of DIY.
Columbia Coatings also has some nice guns. columbiacoatings.com
i've thought about buying one for myself to do small things, I'll check them out. nothing against anyone who does this for a living but if you just want it powder coted and looking nice it is easy to do yourself. but if you want a great finish and spotless paint then take it to a professonal. you probably will mess up and rune some parts before you get it right. hopfully your not charging people to rune ther parts. it's like any painting you only get what you put into it.
Parts can NOT be ruined by powder coating. Something completely and horribly catastrophic would have to happen to ruin a part from a bad powder coat job. All powder coat can be stripped from a part using the right chemicals (expensive chemicals). You would probably have to set the part on fire in some freak accident, that is the only way I can see powder coating ruining a part.
QUOTE (baiter @ Mar 20 2009, 10:41 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=760056
I hope you are saying this as some kind of general comment. If it is aimed at me, then you better understand that I would never charge anyone for a bad job. Anything I would ever do for someone else would either come out right or be re-done until it is a quality job!hopfully your not charging people to rune ther parts.[/b]
your right i should have phrased it differntly. but most people won't buy the stripper and once its cured pc is a pain to try and blast or sand off. the guy who did mine used to just put the parts in a fire and burn it off. which worked but in my mind took all the temper out of the part. this was his favorite trick to strip a frame. and he would charge people to do it. sav ed him time sandblasting
Correct, it is a pain to strip. His fire trick is something I would never do, in fear of weakening a part or deforming it in any way. The right stripper is the only correct way to do it in my mind.
QUOTE (SpillDaThrill @ Mar 20 2009, 10:53 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=760059
He is not joking, I had some powder coating done by him a month ago and the weather had warmed up some and there was alot of moisture in the air, he would not run them because he was affraid they would come out bad. He does quality work. As for guns I thought about doing it myself a few months ago but I wanted to build my own oven so I could do my frame. By the time I had everything priced out I could have james do my complete wheeler 3 or 4 times! Little parts in a conventiinal oven I can see, but whats a gun cost $150.00(est) + powder+a way to sandblast it. I would have james qoute your parts before you buy one. I have had a bunch of stuff done by him here latley and just now have the price of a gun and powder rapped up in it.I hope you are saying this as some kind of general comment. If it is aimed at me, then you better understand that I would never charge anyone for a bad job. Anything I would ever do for someone else would either come out right or be re-done until it is a quality job![/b]
yea im just looking for something to do small parts in.. if i ever get my frame done then id just bring it to a professtional.
QUOTE (82SOCOM @ Mar 20 2009, 12:43 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=760082
Thanks for the good word Mike, I appreciate it.He is not joking, I had some powder coating done by him a month ago and the weather had warmed up some and there was alot of moisture in the air, he would not run them because he was affraid they would come out bad. He does quality work. As for guns I thought about doing it myself a few months ago but I wanted to build my own oven so I could do my frame. By the time I had everything priced out I could have james do my complete wheeler 3 or 4 times! Little parts in a conventiinal oven I can see, but whats a gun cost $150.00(est) + powder+a way to sandblast it. I would have james qoute your parts before you buy one. I have had a bunch of stuff done by him here latley and just now have the price of a gun and powder rapped up in it.[/b]
By the look of you quad SpillDaThrill you know what you are doing. Your quad has to be in the top 5 best looking YFZs, if not nicest of all quads together, I have ever seen. I have been admiring it since the first time I saw your pic of it.
Well like I said earlier it is a pretty simple process and for a do it at home kit that you're only going to be using once in a while for smaller parts (ie. motorcycle parts, frames etc.) I don't think it really matters what kit you buy as long as it sprays powder. If you plan on running a business then you should probably buy the expensive one. With any paint job the finish is only going to be as good as the prep and I always bead blast or sand blast my parts before pc. You can sand imperfections down without completely removing all pc and pc the part again, the new pc will melt into the previous pc you just need a smooth surface.
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