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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 11-02-2019, 05:56 PM Thread Starter
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Rekluse Clutch Asm: Perks for Manual vs. ~Auto?

Ok so Iíve read all I could find on here, watched as many youtube videos I could, researched all I could online about these but most are either selling or outdated, so here we go again.

Riding: XC primarily, minimal MX ~95/5%

Iím contemplating upgrading/replacing my clutch assembly on my Ď19 450R this winter and know Iíll be going with a Rekluse. However, since itís going to cost a small fortune and I donít want to purchase twice, therefore I want to hear from all of you before I take the plunge. Yes they are awesome, yes I have tested them out on other quads (albeit briefly and in no way was enough in my eyes to make a decision such as this) that isnít the question here so please keep that in mind.

Now here is my predicament, Rekluse Core Manual TorqDrive or the ďautoĒ RadiusCX. Both full assembly replacements, both have incredible respect in the industry. Both cost ~the same

So to add some context, Iím a bit old school, I like to use my clutch lever, I like the full control, I like the technical challenges of navigating tight trails and not stalling knowing that if I do...it was cuz I fíd up. To me, and for me personally, I feel that makes me a better rider and quite frankly a better trail reader. Points for the Core Manual TorqDrive.

Bump starts as always, engine breaking without having to relearn a little/build up the reflex on blipping the throttle when I want that extra engine drag. The ability to have the ďoh shit momentsĒ kicking it down in 1st when I donít make it up the hill or get tossed. Keeps the bike ďold schoolĒ just with a bullet proof clutch. Points again for the Core Manual TorqDrive.

On the other hand, yes I could theoretically still use the clutch lever with the RadiusCX and as I get older and get the opportunity to ride less, having an ďautoĒ has itís benefits. There are also a large number of XC and old school trail riders that I respect going this RadiusCX route and that is pretty tough to ignore (some I know still rock the full manual and refuse to change, respect both). Points for the RadiusCX

I get to relearn/build a new reflex on how to handle my quad better. Change is good sometimes and if you arenít learning something new about yourself, your skill or your machine when riding...well then ur probably not pushing yourself. Points RadiusCX

Anyone on here have personal experience with both? Comments on either? Iím interested in hearing everyoneís feedback. As I plan on ďpicking a sideĒ here in the very near future.

Thanks guys!
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I have not compared one to the other but I always ran stock clutches for the longest time and just last year switched to the Rekluse "auto" clutch. Man am I impressed. Like you said you can still use your clutch like regular and I have not honestly had any issues with the difference in engine braking. If you are racing you shouldn't really be using engine braking anyways.


Count me on the side of going auto as there is nothing quite like pushing it until the absolute last possible millisecond before instantly slamming the brakes into a corner, shifting down and throttling out.
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So with an auto you can lockup rear brakes without pulling clutch like a traditional OEM setup and engine will not die on you?

Is that the only feature it does? Acts like a "torque converter" when locking up rear wheels on gear?

You still gotta pull lever when shifting right?

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So with an auto you can lockup rear brakes without pulling clutch like a traditional OEM setup and engine will not die on you?



Is that the only feature it does? Acts like a "torque converter" when locking up rear wheels on gear?



You still gotta pull lever when shifting right?


Technically you donít need your clutch lever with the ďautoĒ. There are videos on youtube of guys (mostly motorcycles) running some pretty tight and technical trails with a GoPro and they specifically state they never touched their clutch lever once. Iíve seen alot of people switch out their clutch lever for a left hand rear brake instead. Many swear by it, especially on ďtrail setupĒ motorcycles. Thatís not for me being somewhat of a traditionalist but it does work for some apparently.
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I have the z start. I won't go back. It's so sick. I am looking for a cheap set up for my dirtbike.


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I'll be buying my Rekluse from Ken at www.kbmotorsports.com

I think he has some specials going on them now!
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It looks like KBMotorsports has a 15% rebate on the Rekluse. I’m thinking about a Radius X myself.
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I'll be buying my Rekluse from Ken at www.kbmotorsports.com



I think he has some specials going on them now!


KB was my plan too lol and exactly why I was posing the question now. Just need to figure out which way I want to go heh before Mr. KB Toys changes his mind and the discount goes away


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Anyone have any experience with the Rekluse CoreManual TorqDrive Clutch?

Lots of RadiusCXís and prior versions of the ďautosĒ out there and the general consensus is... itís awesome lol


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Also, what about beefed up clutch baskets? Would love to avoid this amazing exploding stock clutch basket Iíve heard so much about.

Building a Ď19 450R at the moment

Hinson?
Others?

Any other suggestions/tips to know or avoid?

Staking pins/welding/etc?


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What basket does everyone run with the RadiusCX?


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