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Chamaeleon · 01-21-2012, 08:14 PM

Today i received my new Powercommander 5 (PN: 22-044)
The Wire-harness got another connector more and they
added a timing map in the software.

but they didnt offer any new maps with timing changes yet.

i thought about transfering MSD timing maps (manually) to PC5
but i dont understand the vertical MSD map steps.

can anybody help or anybody allready got some solid timing data for PC5?

thanx

Chamaeleon · 01-25-2012, 04:42 AM

no1 can help?`
i compared the MSD Map values and saw these are all positive digits like 3 or 5.
i cant belive, that this really means a later timing ?!
usually you go back with the timing until the engine starts to knock, then little back.

basicly the manufactures go little bit later to safe engine.

i think i need to build myself a knock sensor....

Kovatch · 01-25-2012, 01:16 PM

I honestly don't know anyone running the new PCV. I've considered getting it to dyno against an MSD & Vortex, but not sure it's worth $350ish just for dyno fun.

Good luck.

Winot450x · 01-26-2012, 10:29 AM

I think that I am going to switch over to the new PCV with the auto tune in the spring because I cannot find a dyno close enough to me. Then I will not have to worry about getting it dyno tuned after mods. First I have to get my new cables, brake lines, and handlebars, then save some more cash for the PCV setup.

SP450RSE · 01-26-2012, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kovatch

I honestly don't know anyone running the new PCV. I've considered getting it to dyno against an MSD & Vortex, but not sure it's worth $350ish just for dyno fun.

Good luck.

Kovatch, if you decide on testing I would be very interested in your findings (As I am sure everyone else considering this change would), I have been following up with DJ for the last 4 months on the release of this new product, only to be told each time it is not available yet

(Testing/refining) perhaps in an effort to ensure their product is competitive in a market against an already established product DJ have done comparison testing themselves

I will ask the question and let you know.

Kovatch · 01-27-2012, 12:55 PM

I borrowed an MSD for the dyno, but there have been many posts about the advantages of the MSD over the "basic" PCV. I am hoping a few phone calls will land a Vortex/Tokyo Mods for the dyno as well. I'm looking to have some fun with it, but not get too crazy. To keep spending money for the hell of it, I'm not too sure I want to do that. My $100 bill tree hasn't bloomed yet. 25+ years and it still hasn't bloomed. haha. I would say with the timing/ignition changes it could be as "powerful" as the MSD.

Keep me posted via email if you can. chris_kovatch @ hotmail.com

SP450RSE · 01-27-2012, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kovatch

I borrowed an MSD for the dyno, but there have been many posts about the advantages of the MSD over the "basic" PCV. I am hoping a few phone calls will land a Vortex/Tokyo Mods for the dyno as well. I'm looking to have some fun with it, but not get too crazy. To keep spending money for the hell of it, I'm not too sure I want to do that. My $100 bill tree hasn't bloomed yet. 25+ years and it still hasn't bloomed. haha. I would say with the timing/ignition changes it could be as "powerful" as the MSD.

Keep me posted via email if you can. chris_kovatch @ hotmail.com

Email sent

Chamaeleon · 01-28-2012, 06:41 PM

i never held a MSD in my hands.
did MSD delivered the timing maps included or who figured out the maps you can find over there?
i m very interested in to know who did the timing map and how did he do it...self made knock sensor?

Kovatch · 01-30-2012, 01:23 PM

Many of the people are asking for MSD maps in a thread here "post your MSD maps" or something similar. Not sure how exactly they tuned it. I have not dealt with an MSD yet.

SP450RSE · 02-02-2012, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chamaeleon

Today i received my new Powercommander 5 (PN: 22-044)
The Wire-harness got another connector more and they
added a timing map in the software.

but they didnt offer any new maps with timing changes yet.

i thought about transfering MSD timing maps (manually) to PC5
but i dont understand the vertical MSD map steps.

can anybody help or anybody allready got some solid timing data for PC5?

thanx

Mate have you tried the DJ website, they have around 14 maps available
I am not sure which have ignition changes in them.
Good luck

Chamaeleon · 02-04-2012, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SP450RSE

Mate have you tried the DJ website, they have around 14 maps available
I am not sure which have ignition changes in them.
Good luck

Checked them all allready. The maps are the same like for the non-timing PC5.

01-21-2012, 08:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
Chamaeleon Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 56	got the new PC5 with Timing (22-044) - Timing Map needed Today i received my new Powercommander 5 (PN: 22-044) The Wire-harness got another connector more and they added a timing map in the software. but they didnt offer any new maps with timing changes yet. i thought about transfering MSD timing maps (manually) to PC5 but i dont understand the vertical MSD map steps. can anybody help or anybody allready got some solid timing data for PC5? thanx __________________ YFZ450R / 2012 / PC5 Autotuned, Doma Full Racing Exhaust (96dB), 2006 Intake Cam, Twinair Powerflow Intake with modded Airbox, Pro Armor Fatpeg Revol. (Nets), Fox Evol X Gen II, Ohlins TTX44, Flexx Handlebar, Precision Steering Damper, Beringer Brake Front Pump, Streamline Hyd. Clutch System, Hiper Fiber Beadlocks, IMS Gas Tank

01-25-2012, 04:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
Chamaeleon Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 56	no1 can help?` i compared the MSD Map values and saw these are all positive digits like 3 or 5. i cant belive, that this really means a later timing ?! usually you go back with the timing until the engine starts to knock, then little back. basicly the manufactures go little bit later to safe engine. i think i need to build myself a knock sensor.... __________________ YFZ450R / 2012 / PC5 Autotuned, Doma Full Racing Exhaust (96dB), 2006 Intake Cam, Twinair Powerflow Intake with modded Airbox, Pro Armor Fatpeg Revol. (Nets), Fox Evol X Gen II, Ohlins TTX44, Flexx Handlebar, Precision Steering Damper, Beringer Brake Front Pump, Streamline Hyd. Clutch System, Hiper Fiber Beadlocks, IMS Gas Tank

01-25-2012, 01:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
Kovatch Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NE OH Posts: 823	I honestly don't know anyone running the new PCV. I've considered getting it to dyno against an MSD & Vortex, but not sure it's worth $350ish just for dyno fun. Good luck. __________________ 2009 YFZ450R Baldwin, DP, DID, Houser, K&N, Maxxis, LSR, PD, PEP, Rath, RPM, Sparks, SunStar, WorksConnection Waiting on Six5Designs for my YFZR stuff. =) Special thanks to Baldwin Motorsports

01-26-2012, 10:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
Winot450x Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Vermont Posts: 46	I think that I am going to switch over to the new PCV with the auto tune in the spring because I cannot find a dyno close enough to me. Then I will not have to worry about getting it dyno tuned after mods. First I have to get my new cables, brake lines, and handlebars, then save some more cash for the PCV setup. __________________ -2010 YFZ 450X- Dasa Classic Full Exhaust, Pro Design Pro Flow K&N, MSD Blaster, Houser +1 Stem, Motion Pro +2 cables, Streamline Brake Lines, PEP EZ-Pull Clutch Arm -2001 TRX 400EX- Yoshimura RS-3 Full Exhaust, K&N Filter, 13t Front Sprocket, Lonestar +1 Stem, Choke Removed -2002 RM 125- FMF Gold Series REV Pipe, UNI Foam Filter

01-27-2012, 12:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
Kovatch Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NE OH Posts: 823	I borrowed an MSD for the dyno, but there have been many posts about the advantages of the MSD over the "basic" PCV. I am hoping a few phone calls will land a Vortex/Tokyo Mods for the dyno as well. I'm looking to have some fun with it, but not get too crazy. To keep spending money for the hell of it, I'm not too sure I want to do that. My $100 bill tree hasn't bloomed yet. 25+ years and it still hasn't bloomed. haha. I would say with the timing/ignition changes it could be as "powerful" as the MSD. Keep me posted via email if you can. chris_kovatch @ hotmail.com __________________ 2009 YFZ450R Baldwin, DP, DID, Houser, K&N, Maxxis, LSR, PD, PEP, Rath, RPM, Sparks, SunStar, WorksConnection Waiting on Six5Designs for my YFZR stuff. =) Special thanks to Baldwin Motorsports

01-28-2012, 06:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
Chamaeleon Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 56	i never held a MSD in my hands. did MSD delivered the timing maps included or who figured out the maps you can find over there? i m very interested in to know who did the timing map and how did he do it...self made knock sensor? __________________ YFZ450R / 2012 / PC5 Autotuned, Doma Full Racing Exhaust (96dB), 2006 Intake Cam, Twinair Powerflow Intake with modded Airbox, Pro Armor Fatpeg Revol. (Nets), Fox Evol X Gen II, Ohlins TTX44, Flexx Handlebar, Precision Steering Damper, Beringer Brake Front Pump, Streamline Hyd. Clutch System, Hiper Fiber Beadlocks, IMS Gas Tank

01-30-2012, 01:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
Kovatch Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NE OH Posts: 823	Many of the people are asking for MSD maps in a thread here "post your MSD maps" or something similar. Not sure how exactly they tuned it. I have not dealt with an MSD yet. __________________ 2009 YFZ450R Baldwin, DP, DID, Houser, K&N, Maxxis, LSR, PD, PEP, Rath, RPM, Sparks, SunStar, WorksConnection Waiting on Six5Designs for my YFZR stuff. =) Special thanks to Baldwin Motorsports

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