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yfzracer45 · 11-15-2011, 01:28 AM

So ive seen the ARS-FX steering flags and since they are made from the stock OEM flag i figure i will make my own like so.. I know theres goin to be some people to say they wouldnt trust it or say its a accident in the making but if you have seen a ARS-FX in person you will see theirs is identical and is also welded which if you can weld good there should be no worries.

I had 2 oem flags and started cutting and got almost a good 1/2 way finished product.

theres a outline on the bottom of the flag of the same triangle design that i cut which is same as the ARS FX

here are some pics showing what ive done. It lowers the tie rods 3/8" inch down lower to reduce bump steer and better handling.

funyun · 11-15-2011, 09:38 AM

I just got a GTThunder one for my YFZR. Its a stock one aswell cut and welded. Good idea making your own, pretty simple if you can weld

yfzracer45 · 11-15-2011, 02:22 PM

Sweet can u post a pic?

funyun · 11-15-2011, 02:35 PM

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yfzracer45 · 11-15-2011, 03:06 PM

thanks, looks like the same concept but i took 2 flags and made 1. Mine is 1 sitting on top of the other so its a full 3/8in drop lower. Not sure how much lower the GTT is because of the top view

salvin36 · 11-15-2011, 03:14 PM

If someone doesnt mind explaining the theory behind this I would appreciate it. I am interested.

funyun · 11-15-2011, 03:21 PM

It lowers the tie rods down and lessens the angle they are at, which is supposed to reduce bump steer.

yfzracer45 · 11-15-2011, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salvin36

If someone doesnt mind explaining the theory behind this I would appreciate it. I am interested.

eliminate bump steer and help with handling which bump steer in brakn bumps and whooped out tracks can really slow a rider down

salvin36 · 11-15-2011, 05:25 PM

That makes sense, although it seems that with this increased angle it would also cause more resistance when turning the bars?

yfzracer45 · 11-15-2011, 05:31 PM

its not changin the angle its just bringing the center point of the tie rod mounting down lower.

Other aftermarket companys sale stems with longer splines and threads so they have their own steering flag that just has a longer flange so it spaces it downwards. However like houser and others they make you run a small spacer under the flag if your using the stock OEM because the spacer makes up the difference that the aftermarket flag takes up. You cant just throw a spacer between the stock flag because then it will lower the flag too much and the steering stoppers wont hit the frame brackets and cause the steering point to stop like its suppose to, therefore making your turns too sharp which can lead to a crash

salvin36 · 11-15-2011, 05:42 PM

Ah, I see. Well that all makes sense, I would be curious to see how much of a difference this would make with bump steer. As more quads make their way to being parted out on ebay I am sure I could pick up a couple flags to make one like yours. It looks pretty straight forward.

yfzracer45 · 11-15-2011, 05:49 PM

$8 for a used flag for 04-08 bikes not sure if they are the same but they arent that bad thats why i figure if i didnt like it i would get another stock for $8 shipped

egslutmobile · 01-14-2012, 01:58 AM

great post i may try it if i can get ahold of another stock flag (because i can weld)

ctown208 · 01-14-2012, 02:05 AM

nice job

bbcmudtruck · 01-14-2012, 07:59 AM

Looks good. I wasn't aware of this upgrade at all. Thanks for bringing it to attention. It looks like a new flag with a stabilizer should yeild good results.

funyun · 01-14-2012, 08:07 AM

reminds me I still have to put my gtthunder one I got off ebay on. They do exactly what he is doing. Not sure how much they charge new.

11-15-2011, 01:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
yfzracer45 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bowling Green Ky Posts: 2,403	steering flag "custom" So ive seen the ARS-FX steering flags and since they are made from the stock OEM flag i figure i will make my own like so.. I know theres goin to be some people to say they wouldnt trust it or say its a accident in the making but if you have seen a ARS-FX in person you will see theirs is identical and is also welded which if you can weld good there should be no worries. I had 2 oem flags and started cutting and got almost a good 1/2 way finished product. theres a outline on the bottom of the flag of the same triangle design that i cut which is same as the ARS FX here are some pics showing what ive done. It lowers the tie rods 3/8" inch down lower to reduce bump steer and better handling.

11-15-2011, 03:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
salvin36 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 262	If someone doesnt mind explaining the theory behind this I would appreciate it. I am interested. __________________ -'09 YFZ450R - Pro Armor Revolution Nerfs, CCP Steering Stabilizer, MSD Blaster FI,Full Barker's Exhaust, Fuel Customs Intake, Faast Flexx Bars w/ Cycra Pro-bend Guards, Houser +1 Steering Stem Burning Ethanol -'05 LTZ400 - Modded

11-15-2011, 05:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
salvin36 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 262	That makes sense, although it seems that with this increased angle it would also cause more resistance when turning the bars? __________________ -'09 YFZ450R - Pro Armor Revolution Nerfs, CCP Steering Stabilizer, MSD Blaster FI,Full Barker's Exhaust, Fuel Customs Intake, Faast Flexx Bars w/ Cycra Pro-bend Guards, Houser +1 Steering Stem Burning Ethanol -'05 LTZ400 - Modded

11-15-2011, 05:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
salvin36 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 262	Ah, I see. Well that all makes sense, I would be curious to see how much of a difference this would make with bump steer. As more quads make their way to being parted out on ebay I am sure I could pick up a couple flags to make one like yours. It looks pretty straight forward. __________________ -'09 YFZ450R - Pro Armor Revolution Nerfs, CCP Steering Stabilizer, MSD Blaster FI,Full Barker's Exhaust, Fuel Customs Intake, Faast Flexx Bars w/ Cycra Pro-bend Guards, Houser +1 Steering Stem Burning Ethanol -'05 LTZ400 - Modded

01-14-2012, 02:05 AM	#14 (permalink)
ctown208 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Caldwell Idaho Posts: 512	nice job __________________ 2012 yfz 450r

11-15-2011, 09:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
funyun Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,571	I just got a GTThunder one for my YFZR. Its a stock one aswell cut and welded. Good idea making your own, pretty simple if you can weld

11-15-2011, 02:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
yfzracer45 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bowling Green Ky Posts: 2,403	Sweet can u post a pic?

11-15-2011, 02:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
funyun Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,571	eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices

11-15-2011, 03:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
yfzracer45 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bowling Green Ky Posts: 2,403	thanks, looks like the same concept but i took 2 flags and made 1. Mine is 1 sitting on top of the other so its a full 3/8in drop lower. Not sure how much lower the GTT is because of the top view

11-15-2011, 03:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
funyun Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,571	It lowers the tie rods down and lessens the angle they are at, which is supposed to reduce bump steer.

11-15-2011, 05:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
yfzracer45 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bowling Green Ky Posts: 2,403	its not changin the angle its just bringing the center point of the tie rod mounting down lower. Other aftermarket companys sale stems with longer splines and threads so they have their own steering flag that just has a longer flange so it spaces it downwards. However like houser and others they make you run a small spacer under the flag if your using the stock OEM because the spacer makes up the difference that the aftermarket flag takes up. You cant just throw a spacer between the stock flag because then it will lower the flag too much and the steering stoppers wont hit the frame brackets and cause the steering point to stop like its suppose to, therefore making your turns too sharp which can lead to a crash

11-15-2011, 05:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
yfzracer45 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bowling Green Ky Posts: 2,403	$8 for a used flag for 04-08 bikes not sure if they are the same but they arent that bad thats why i figure if i didnt like it i would get another stock for $8 shipped

01-14-2012, 01:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
egslutmobile Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: rochester ny Posts: 41	great post i may try it if i can get ahold of another stock flag (because i can weld)

01-14-2012, 07:59 AM	#15 (permalink)
bbcmudtruck Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northwest Missouri Posts: 1,768	Looks good. I wasn't aware of this upgrade at all. Thanks for bringing it to attention. It looks like a new flag with a stabilizer should yeild good results. __________________

01-14-2012, 08:07 AM	#16 (permalink)
funyun Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,571	reminds me I still have to put my gtthunder one I got off ebay on. They do exactly what he is doing. Not sure how much they charge new.

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