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atvfreestylekid · 09-01-2010, 07:15 AM

I'm in the market for a yfz and found an 05 i like and will prolly buy

. My question is, can i run +2 arm with the stock shocks from another quad with long travel from the factory with little modifications? I See no reason for spending alot of money on the "perfect" suspension since i do not race or anything. But i do like to ride on mx tracks and a few friends have personal tracks that i ride on. I was thinking maybe some lt-r shocks if the width of the shock mounts are the same or verry close. Or, how well is a +2 system for stock shocks? Seems like it would soften the front end a bit due to the extra leverage. Will definately have to get the stockers revalved. I have a set of 08 yfz shocks on my banshee. Arent they better than the 05 shocks? Sorry if I sound like an anoying newb but i've been out of the sport for a couple of years and forgot alot of things. Thanks for any input.

-Josh

foxracingwade · 09-01-2010, 08:42 AM

save your self the trouble and just find plus two a-arms that are standard travel

atvfreestylekid · 09-01-2010, 08:48 AM

What do you guys think about full flight arms? I remember everyone on banshee hq saying they were trash due the the heims or whatever. or is there another company out their that is reasonably priced? Thanks

foxracingwade · 09-01-2010, 08:58 AM

What are you looking to spend

atvfreestylekid · 09-01-2010, 09:01 AM

500 max. I' like to find some used housers or somthing.

foxracingwade · 09-01-2010, 09:27 AM

srart looking in the for sale section

1fast06yfz · 09-01-2010, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atvfreestylekid

What do you guys think about full flight arms? I remember everyone on banshee hq saying they were trash due the the heims or whatever. or is there another company out their that is reasonably priced? Thanks

full flight is junk spend a little more money and get something better quality

Fordtough150 · 09-01-2010, 12:17 PM

$500 could pry get you some JD arms

critter_catcher74 · 09-01-2010, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foxracingwade

save your self the trouble and just find plus two a-arms that are standard travel

No such animal unless you can find a set that defy simple geometry. by increasing the length of the A-arms you increase the radius of the travel therefore increasing the distance the A-arms travel at the end even with stock shocks. The only reason you would need longer shocks for any A-arm kit is if the mounting point for the shock was moved out from the stock location which is not necessary but I believe most manufacturers do just so they can sell you a set of shocks and steal another grand of your hard earned money. I guess what I am getting at is that he needs to find a set of +2 arms with shock mounting points at the stock location, but he will in the end still have extended travel.

**leveldrummer** · 09-01-2010, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by critter_catcher74

No such animal unless you can find a set that defy simple geometry. by increasing the length of the A-arms you increase the radius of the travel therefore increasing the distance the A-arms travel at the end even with stock shocks. The only reason you would need longer shocks for any A-arm kit is if the mounting point for the shock was moved out from the stock location which is not necessary but I believe most manufacturers do just so they can sell you a set of shocks and steal another grand of your hard earned money. I guess what I am getting at is that he needs to find a set of +2 arms with shock mounting points at the stock location, but he will in the end still have extended travel.

you misunderstand what long travel and standard travel refers too, it has nothing to do with how far the tire moves on the end of the arm, it simply means how long the shock is, you can get +2 arms with standard travel, they just use a stock length shock. it only refers to shock length, and the term is rather misleading.

to the OP. you can get houser arms out of their clearance section brand new for around 500... just look around.

or check with some of the site sponsors that have great deals on some cheaper brand suspensions.

the stock 08 shocks are better then the 05's, so use those, get them revalved for the arms and your weight. and dont use any other stock shocks from other bikes, too many issues and variables to get them setup properly.

critter_catcher74 · 09-01-2010, 04:28 PM

got it, pardon my noobness!

**leveldrummer** · 09-01-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by critter_catcher74

got it, pardon my noobness!

no biggie, your theory is correct, its just not what they are talking about when referring to the travel of our suspension... if there was more actual tire travel, the frame would hit the ground much more.

05yfz45006 · 09-01-2010, 09:13 PM

Sorry to just jump in here but about how much does it cost to have stock shocks revalved? What is the weight limit on the stock shocks?

atvfreestylekid · 09-02-2010, 11:08 PM

Ok. Thanks for the info guys. I'll just look around for some used ones. What's a decent company to get the stockers revalved at?

**leveldrummer** · 09-02-2010, 11:54 PM

im a fan of quinn motorsports... hes in GA, does great work, and is pat browns mechanic.

norris quinn
1-706-384-4795

give him a call, hes great to talk too.

foxracingwade · 09-03-2010, 11:11 AM

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09-01-2010, 07:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
atvfreestylekid Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 8	cheap long travel I'm in the market for a yfz and found an 05 i like and will prolly buy. My question is, can i run +2 arm with the stock shocks from another quad with long travel from the factory with little modifications? I See no reason for spending alot of money on the "perfect" suspension since i do not race or anything. But i do like to ride on mx tracks and a few friends have personal tracks that i ride on. I was thinking maybe some lt-r shocks if the width of the shock mounts are the same or verry close. Or, how well is a +2 system for stock shocks? Seems like it would soften the front end a bit due to the extra leverage. Will definately have to get the stockers revalved. I have a set of 08 yfz shocks on my banshee. Arent they better than the 05 shocks? Sorry if I sound like an anoying newb but i've been out of the sport for a couple of years and forgot alot of things. Thanks for any input. -Josh

09-01-2010, 08:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
foxracingwade Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York Posts: 812	save your self the trouble and just find plus two a-arms that are standard travel __________________ "Its not the speed that kills its the sudden impact at the end...." 2010 YFZ 450x Bill Balance Edition HMF Competition Hiper Rims Houser Bounce Nerfs Houer +2 Stem Rath Bumper Pro Precision Stabilizer Fasst Flex Bars *#303 WNYOA*

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foxracingwade Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York Posts: 812	srart looking in the for sale section __________________ "Its not the speed that kills its the sudden impact at the end...." 2010 YFZ 450x Bill Balance Edition HMF Competition Hiper Rims Houser Bounce Nerfs Houer +2 Stem Rath Bumper Pro Precision Stabilizer Fasst Flex Bars *#303 WNYOA*

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09-01-2010, 08:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
atvfreestylekid Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 8	What do you guys think about full flight arms? I remember everyone on banshee hq saying they were trash due the the heims or whatever. or is there another company out their that is reasonably priced? Thanks

09-01-2010, 09:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
atvfreestylekid Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 8	500 max. I' like to find some used housers or somthing.

09-01-2010, 04:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
critter_catcher74 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: North Pole, AK Posts: 22	got it, pardon my noobness!

09-01-2010, 09:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
05yfz45006 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Nevada/Nor Cal Posts: 336	Sorry to just jump in here but about how much does it cost to have stock shocks revalved? What is the weight limit on the stock shocks?

09-02-2010, 11:08 PM	#14 (permalink)
atvfreestylekid Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 8	Ok. Thanks for the info guys. I'll just look around for some used ones. What's a decent company to get the stockers revalved at?

09-02-2010, 11:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
leveldrummer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: south of atlanta, GA Posts: 7,379	im a fan of quinn motorsports... hes in GA, does great work, and is pat browns mechanic. norris quinn 1-706-384-4795 give him a call, hes great to talk too.

09-03-2010, 11:11 AM	#16 (permalink)
foxracingwade Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York Posts: 812	hygear __________________ "Its not the speed that kills its the sudden impact at the end...." 2010 YFZ 450x Bill Balance Edition HMF Competition Hiper Rims Houser Bounce Nerfs Houer +2 Stem Rath Bumper Pro Precision Stabilizer Fasst Flex Bars *#303 WNYOA*

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