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Lonestar verse Walsh??

KB Motorsports has a couple specials going on at this time and I'm going to try either a Lonestar or Walsh front end. Do they have the same geometry? What are the differences? I know both Walsh and Lonestar use the same length shocks.


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Why are Lonestar arms so popular? Warranty, LTR spindles?


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I know lonestar has an amazing warranty. Does walsh have a similar warranty?

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I don't think they have the same warranty.


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I mean most the the pros run Walsh.
Maybe they pay the best.
I really like six5 design, but he doesn't use caster brackets. I wanted to ask him about it.
But I'm to broke right now.

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Doesn't really relate to your post and I apologize, but is they're anything in particular you didn't like about the housers? I'm looking into buying a set of the .5 slicast xc arms but haven't heard alot about them. Any input would be appreciated, don't wanna spend good money on something and regret it
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The Housers are strong, my pair had excellent fit and finish, the caster is easy to change because of the slicast units, I believe they have better ground clearance then the above two brands, Houser costs significantly less than the above two brands, decent customer service......They handle very well! I have no complaints besides wanting to go narrower and try something different.

I'm curious if there are any handling differences? Why do XC guys run Lonestar so much and why do MX guys run Walsh so much?


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Nobody has a Lonestar or Walsh setup?


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I just bought a TRX450R with the LSR DC-PRO a-arm & DC-Pro LTR geometry spindle setup. The DC-Pro a-arms look like they are really strong and heavy compared to my Houser slicast. I still think Walsh is the way to go if i was buying new. I like that they use a cup style ball joint on both upper & lower a-arms, And I've heard that they use better hardware (bearings, heims)
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You wont be disappointed with Walsh, they don't offer a warranty though on the arms. The caster bracket helps a lot, you'll notice why they say that our front end is flawed from factory. The front end handles way better with the walsh setup. Not sure if lonestar would be better for xc but for mx definitely go walsh. I still think the walsh xc arms have to be better. I even noticed a huge difference in how my rear end handles now with the walsh rear linkage. They definitely make the best products for our bikes.


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It will be a neat comparison.....I know MX verse XC width however, I'm curious if there is any noticeable difference between my Houser or my new front end?


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How do you adjust the camber with the Walsh a-arms since the upper a-arm is a cup style ball joint?

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I believe you use the upper a-arm joints...My guess adjust for camber 1st then add in the caster...?


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How do you adjust the camber with the Walsh a-arms since the upper a-arm is a cup style ball joint?
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I believe you use the upper a-arm joints...My guess adjust for camber 1st then add in the caster...?


You adjust the toe by turning the tie rods clockwise or counterclockwise. The upper arms have heim joints that go together with the caster bracket assembly. The only parts you should be able to move with your hands after the install are the tie rods since they have the ball joints. You do notice a difference in the caster bracket since its moves up the upper a-arm location about an 1" up.
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My Houser setup has the caster bracket and I noticed it immediately when I first put them on! The Floats really soaked up the small jarring bumps however, this probably is the same with other aftermarket shocks.


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I know lonestar has an amazing warranty. Does walsh have a similar warranty?
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I mean most the the pros run Walsh.
Maybe they pay the best.
I really like six5 design, but he doesn't use caster brackets. I wanted to ask him about it.
But I'm to broke right now.

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Doesn't really relate to your post and I apologize, but is they're anything in particular you didn't like about the housers? I'm looking into buying a set of the .5 slicast xc arms but haven't heard alot about them. Any input would be appreciated, don't wanna spend good money on something and regret it
I don't think you'll be disappointed or regret your decision purchasing Houser a-arms.

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The Housers are strong, my pair had excellent fit and finish, the caster is easy to change because of the slicast units, I believe they have better ground clearance then the above two brands, Houser costs significantly less than the above two brands, decent customer service......They handle very well! I have no complaints besides wanting to go narrower and try something different.

I'm curious if there is any handling differences? Why do XC guys run Lonestar so much and why do MX guys run Walsh so much?
I always noticed XC guys running Houser and MX guys running a mix between LSR, JB, and Walsh.

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I just bought a TRX450R with the LSR DC-PRO a-arm & DC-Pro LTR geometry spindle setup. The DC-Pro a-arms look like they are really strong and heavy compared to my Houser slicast. I still think Walsh is the way to go if i was buying new. I like that they use a cup style ball joint on both upper & lower a-arms, And I've heard that they use better hardware (bearings, heims)
The LTR hub conversion greatly reduce bump steer which makes your combo one of the ultimate setups for the TRX in my opinion.

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You wont be disappointed with Walsh, they don't offer a warranty though on the arms. The caster bracket helps a lot, you'll notice why they say that our front end is flawed from factory. The front end handles way better with the walsh setup. Not sure if lonestar would be better for xc but for mx definitely go walsh. I still think the walsh xc arms have to be better. I even noticed a huge difference in how my rear end handles now with the walsh rear linkage. They definitely make the best products for our bikes.
The caster brackets drastically improves handling for narrow setups, and aids handling on mx setups. How do you like the Stage 5 shocks?


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The caster brackets drastically improves handling for narrow setups, and aids handling on mx setups. How do you like the Stage 5 shocks?
Love them. I thought my oem shocks were pretty good for being oem, they are crap compared to the stage 5s. Bike handles 100x better in every aspect. The walsh linkage with the stage 5s made a huge difference in the handling of the rear also. I'm glad I went with the stage 5s over fox. Installed my suspension right out of the box, went 5 clicks harder in the high compression to make the shocks a bit stiffer because I was bottoming out on the hard packed tracks. Haven't had to touch my suspension like in 4 rides, unlike the fox I probably would have had to put air every single time. Best purchase I've made
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