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Old 01-31-2012, 09:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys Iam new to the forums a big hello here. Iam planning on getting a 450 this month and cant deside between the saweet 09-2010 efi Yfz450r and a 08 Ltr450. I ride mostly dunes but also hit tight trails and open desert. I like the wide stance of the ltr's but on some trails I just wont be able to do it with its widthness.. also I luv to pass trough tight spaces exploring everywhere lol dont wanna grab an X version.. so I think its down to an efi R model. What guys u have to say between ltr's and yfz's? I only have heard the Suzuki guys give their opinions bout it. TIA
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I have ridden a couple ltrs and only the carbed yfzs but I like the yfz better IMO. If I'm correct Suzuki dropped all thier factory racers and I think they droped the ltr from production that's what I herd not for sure though. My buddy is a dealer and his son raced a ltr but switch to a ds because of that. So if that's true parts could rise in price just something to ponder on...
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the ltr was pulled from production because of the EPA. because they left a race map on the ecu that was too easy to access by the consumer ( cherry bomb ) a quad has never been a closed course only where the bikes are so a quad has to go under diffrent guide lines. so yes if they stop makeing them then parts will rise but if you(over time) look at the old honda 250r parts are still made for them and arnt that bad to buy i do belive that parts will still be made for them for a long time. but if it was me yfz450r would be my choice by far love mine
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Old 01-31-2012, 10:24 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Good point didnt know about the discontinued ltr's..
Cant decide .. I have been a Yamaha guy since 15 years old. Have had 3 raptors 350 and now is the moment to upgrade to a 450.. The thing I dont like on the 450yfz's is that they vibrate too much.. Also readed a lot that the ltr have plenty of power.. they handle very good too. Anyone else ? Thx
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I rode a LTR for 3 years and switched to the YFZR and have been on it for the last year and a half. I really like the ergo's on both bikes, both handle extremely well once you switch to 4+1 front wheels on the YFZR. I really like the smoothness of the power on the YFZR but you have to spend a little more $$$ on the YFZR to get the same performance as just a cherry bomb and slip-on for the LTR.

If you plan on keeping the stock shocks the YFZR are WAY better. Either way I don't think you can go wrong with either bike, but If I had to buy another one tomorrow it would be another YFZR.
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Old 01-31-2012, 11:41 AM   #6 (permalink)
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If the EFI isnt a big deal for you Yamaha is offering a 2012 model YFZ thats carburated for somewhere between 6000-7000 dollars(cant remember the exact price.) But according to dirtwheels mag, yamaha made a lot of improvements on this one and when you purchase the quad you can choose from over 100 graphic kits online for free for it. Its the cheapest 450 available in 2012. A lot cheaper then the efi version but thats up to you.
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Woody, thank u for the best informative post.. I plan to keep the stock shocks.
Dang... With the ltr's being discontinued becsuse of unlimited unleashed dangerous power its a more diff decision... arghhh lol

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Woody, thank u for the best informative post.. I plan to keep the stock shocks.
Dang... With the ltr's being discontinued becsuse of unlimited unleashed dangerous power its a more diff decision... arghhh lol
being discontinued had nothing to do with power. LTR isnt any more powerful than the other bikes.

If you are keeping everything mostly stock the YFZR is going to be the best bike out of most of them. Bone stock they comes with the nicest components. Also saw you mentioned you don't like the vibration of the YFZ. The new R has WAY less vibration and is alot smoother than the old carb bikes. If you want to be narrow for trails get the X if you want to be wider get the R
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Cant decide between ltr anf yfzr.. but I will get the yzfr more likely.. its new improved ergo and looks gives more resale value.. my girl likes more the new yfzr... thank u guy u the best
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I love my R. I rode an ltr for a few days on a long trail ride and really liked it as well. I think they are both good bikes. But in the end, I would choose the R over the LTR because of the suspension and comfort of the bike.
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I love my R. I rode an ltr for a few days on a long trail ride and really liked it as well. I think they are both good bikes. But in the end, I would choose the R over the LTR because of the suspension and comfort of the bike.
bbc your quad is beautiful and pretty clean... thats what I want/need. Pro armor nerfs are the best IMHO.. grats on an awesome ride.. that gotta own the sand dunes period
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Ive got the 09 yfz450r in my garage broke down right now. i had the basic mods done to it and everything was installed correctly. the engine is destroyed and im having to get it rebuilt. not to say this will happen to all and probly wont but i definantly cant say i wouldnt go with an ltr450 knowing what i know now. my bud has an 06 ltr and it still runs strong and he beats me everytime on the straight drag. just something to think about
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I have both, it's tough to choose one over the other but I favor the Yamaha brand over Suzuki. Out of the box, the yfzR handles better than the LTR but when modified the LTR handles everything extremely well, better than most 450's in the market. With a CRBM the LTR is quicker out of the box than the yfzR. It's easier to get power out of the LTR than the yfzR as well.
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either the R or a longtravel carbed yfz
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Ive got the 09 yfz450r in my garage broke down right now. i had the basic mods done to it and everything was installed correctly. the engine is destroyed and im having to get it rebuilt. not to say this will happen to all and probly wont but i definantly cant say i wouldnt go with an ltr450 knowing what i know now. my bud has an 06 ltr and it still runs strong and he beats me everytime on the straight drag. just something to think about
the local dealer in my area is a yamaha, his son has a yfzr, the engine has blown twice, decent mods, not heavy do, my buddy has one, he blew the engine once after 6 months, totally stock and not huge ride time either, i have heard a couple of other guys say they can be soft,
on the flip side suzuki are meant to have a softer gearbox, move likely to give out that the yfzr, but not as often as the yfzr engine,
but from what i hear at the tracks yfzr owners are not to impressed, thats from guys with only basic mods done.

i have a yfz, love it, but if i was goin stock i would have a suzuki, they r proven, tested to win and although they have been discontinued for now, there is still so many parts available, maybe with chad ridin the r it will get better, yfzr maybe heavier too if that is a concern, the yfz r is still an awsome bike that will only get better, i have riden one a few times and like it, suzuki to.
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the local dealer in my area is a yamaha, his son has a yfzr, the engine has blown twice, decent mods, not heavy do, my buddy has one, he blew the engine once after 6 months, totally stock and not huge ride time either, i have heard a couple of other guys say they can be soft,
on the flip side suzuki are meant to have a softer gearbox, move likely to give out that the yfzr, but not as often as the yfzr engine,
but from what i hear at the tracks yfzr owners are not to impressed, thats from guys with only basic mods done.

i have a yfz, love it, but if i was goin stock i would have a suzuki, they r proven, tested to win and although they have been discontinued for now, there is still so many parts available, maybe with chad ridin the r it will get better, yfzr maybe heavier too if that is a concern, the yfz r is still an awsome bike that will only get better, i have riden one a few times and like it, suzuki to.
Dam sounds like someone needs to teach these guys how to maintain a quad lol. Blowing up a stock R motor in 6 months takes some talent
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Ya, mine is an 09 and with regular oil changes it still runs great.
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When people blow motors and say things like: It was barely used, I didn't even ride it hard, it was stock, it was barely modded. All these things point to one thing and thats owner error. Can't blame a bike when you dont know what you are doing and can't maintain it. The first step is to admit its your fault and figure out what you did wrong.
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Hey guys, a buddy is offering his bb ed. 2007 modded clean 450 on 5400 bucks. its that price ok? Price check
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WAY too expensive. an 07 carb YFZ is worth maybe $3500 if its like brand new.
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